Live Trading Results

Starting on December 2016 I funded a futures account with $25,451 of my own money to trade systems which are highlighted on System Trader Success. I started out with a small account to demonstrate a realistic scenario of a new retail trader just starting to trade. I intend to track the results here, on this page.

Update For December 2017

Our trading systems are in drawdown as of July 2017. We really started out the year strong thus, a drawdown period is not surprising or unusual. The E-mini Intermarket System is lost money on the short side as the market continues to roar higher.

At this point this portfolio has generated $4,935 in net profit. 

Trading System Performance

This includes deductions for slippage & commissions.

November Return


2017 Year-To-Date Return


Life Time Return


Recent Trades from E-mini Intermarket System

Cost of Live Trading

Being a system developer and trade also means you're going to have costs beyond commissions and fees imposed during trade execution. You're going to need a trading platform and historical market data to develop and test your trading ideas. You may also wish to utilize additional tools and rent server space so you don't have to run your live trading from your home computer.

Below is a table which contains the monthly costs for ​the data feed, trading platform (which includes a subscription to a portfolio testing feature) and the cost of hosting my trading platform on a remote sever. 

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You an see the fees add up to $378 per month. This represents friction against your trading performance. The last column is what I call the Effective Return which is the portfolio performance minus all these expenses.

The monthly fee of $378 may seem a bit high at first. I have many data feeds for testing various markets. I lease a software package for portfolio level backtesting and I rent server space. But none of that is out of the ordinary.  There will always be costs to live trading and in our case, the portfolio will have to clear $378 per month on average just to cover costs. The good news is, as the trading account grows larger, these feeds don't scale up in proportion to your account. Thus, the impact of these fees diminishes. 

Nonetheless, this should give you a good idea on what to expect in regards to the cost of running your automated trading portfolio. Of course this does not include all the other costs you may have expensed for classes, trading system and other educational material. 

Portfolio Performance - The Effect Of Trading Expenses

This includes deductions for slippage, commissions, platform fees and remote server hosing. After one year TradeStation Platform Fees, Data Feeds and hosting services have totaled $4,869. This is a huge bite out of the portfolio and you can see that reflected in the numbers below. 

Net P&L


 Trading Expenses


Before Trading Expenses

After Trading Expenses

Systems Traded

The automated trading systems were selected to start trading is the E-mini S&P Intermarket System.

E-mini S&P Intermarket System

The E-mini S&P Intermarket System will hold trades for days or weeks and operates using intermarket analysis. It is, a type of arbitrage system which will take both long and short positions. Thus, this trading methodology provides further diversification. This system operates exclusively on the a daily chart.

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